The estimates above are crazy. The difference is he was arb eligible a fourth time after 2020 rather than being a free agent outright. Braves fans will be the first ones screaming when all these long term signing dont work out and the team starts getting hamstrung. Lordy the braves are waaaaay ahead of the curve in finding talent. This is how you run an organization. Spencer Strider has a net worth of $1,167,934. The annoying part is we are charged a fee as part of our cable packages to get YES, but more games this year have been splintered off to Prime, Apple and Peacock. Strider just had one of the best seasons for a rookie starter in the arbitration era. Creating a winning environment. They still unquestionably saved on Striders first two free-agent years, provided he remains healthy. Good thing you waited until Strider got lit up in playoffs to respond. That could really escalate the arb figures. Salary: All-Star: World Series: 2021 Atlanta Braves: 65--2022 Atlanta Braves: Most of the professional commentators (fwiw) picked the Braves on the basis that the Mets had yet to unthrone the kings. Luckily for the Braves, they have Strider under contract through 2029. If we remove his first-full season clunker in 2017 and fold in 2022, hes still only at a league-average 100. I think its even more encouraging within you're organization to know your going to have that nucleus every year.. Hes getting old and is owed a good chunk of change still. Strider has coerced whiffs on more than 37 percent of the swings taken against his fastball in the upper-third of the zone this season. Late in February, Spencer proposed to Maggie Whitener, and the two are now happily married. No its not at all about that. Theyre in 10000x better position than anyone in that division to be a long term competitor, for sure. But if we are anywhere near the same cutoff after next season that we were after 2021, Strider will miss Super 2 status by 110 days roughly or almost 4 months of being on the roster. Harper sold and sells lots of tickets etc and great pr. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. Its a win-win. Braves dont even have enough to trade for a SS. Baezs peak, two 6 rWAR seasons in 2018-19, are something Swanson only came close to in 2022 (though, pro rated, his 2020 would have gotten close). The problem is they still have the potential to either end up in the bleachers or the nose-bleed sections, or even if they get great seats behind homeplate, they are still losing nearly 30% on the gamble. If Strider happens to need TJS along the way then this deal would end up being upside down for Atlanta. That 4th year is going to be around $30 million and his FA is going to be more than that. Super Twos are players who barely missed the full year. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. We will gladly take him, throw in 20 million of his salary as well since you feel as though youve overpaid for him? Your justification for the contract makes no sense. Albies was banged up this year but his $35M contract was earned in basically a year and a half. With Striders salaries now set through the 2028 season, the Braves, incredibly, already have $76MM on the books six years down the line. Theres risk for sure, but if AA is doing it (hes been notoriously risk-aversive since arriving) Im giving him the benefit of the doubt. Please logout and login again. Already Subscribed? Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. Thats the salary of players in year 2 and 3. Meanwhile, those games arent even broadcast on local cable, since you again just have to watch on Apple TV instead. Im curious what he wants. The Yankees have the fattest wallets, anywhere but NY wasnt really an option. 2025: $9-10M Had the Yankees given Judge the same treatment after the 2017 season, we wouldnt be having Judge FA discussions. The idea that getting only modest performance for $20m in the last 3 years of the deal will hurt the Braves much at all, though, doesnt follow. Also, Swanson played all 60 games in 2020 and he missed only 2 games total in the 21-22 seasons. Read the article, be not thought of as a moron or an imbecile who is led by his ignorance and unwillingness to gain knowledge, which should be pursued despite the clear lack of capacity for you to store in in your brain! It would definitely be an anomaly if the Braves hit on all this extensions. Now they have him locked in through 2028 with extremely team friendly option in 2029. Updated On January 29, 2023. One thing is certain: he divides his time between the four MLB teams. Thats totally irrelevant here. He wouldnt get anywhere near the same amount of extra money in bonuses, and thats assuming he remains good enough to get additional bonuses after this year. You are making a lot of wild assumptions. No I said youre disingenuous because youre trying to use the 2 1/3 ML inning pitched by Strider as a full season comp to Harvey. You just need to have an Apple account and either a computer or smartphone to access the verification code. Born: Says who? Period. He was drafted in the 35th round of the 2017 MLB Draft by the Cleveland Indians, however, he did not sign a contract with them. If Spencer doesnt get any better than he currently is, hes still an ace. Cant see that happening. This is smart timing, no surprise from AA. Essentially they trade the risk that he gets hurt and produces nothing in one or more years for the free first free agent year, and the discounted second free agent year assuming hes healthy. Conversely, How about them Mets? Great job by signing Strider to an extension. Many observers have compared Strider's pitching style to Houston Astros ace Justin Verlander. Love to see this for a team and their fan base, Win win for both sides. He'll be paid a $4MM salary in 2025 before jumping to . Read more at MLB Trade Rumors. Strider will qualify for Super Two. Soto put up an .853 OPS and 149 OPS+. Strider broke the record for fastest to 200 strikeouts in a single season, doing so in 130 innings, two-thirds of an inning quicker than Hall of Famer Randy Johnson in 2001. The other 5 of all these extensions are postion players at different ages and stages in their careers. 33. Strikeouts have the highest correlation with statistical fall off. Neither Strider nor Harris II were ranked in the top 100 prospects by the media outlets that MLB is using to qualify rookies for increased service time and teams getting extra draft picks. If he spent all of 2022 in the majors then assuming he doesnt get sent down at all next year he will have exactly 2 years of service time after 2023. Strider is now under contract with the Braves [] I feel bad for all of the players not being drafted because the owners have shortened the draft. They cant keep getting away with robbery forever. Players dont decide when they will be traded unless they have a no trade clause. These deals were made after Matt Olson received his eight-year, $168 million deal one day after being acquired from the As in March. Past that, I think all these extensions are based on the character of the player as much as talent. Troll on books. It is for someone that age. Cant believe how many time the site posts the same comment. Acuna had a 41/37 season after he signed, and was in his way to winning the MVP last year before the injury. Sorry for the confusion. 37 Blake Snell, SP, SD. 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Then add in the two FA years the Braves control at $22 million each, and this deal is great for the Braves. I mean, kudos to the Braves for being aggressive and theyre certainly taking on risk of injury / under-performance, but seems some of the extensions the players have signed seem light. Look at them now. Imo, hes got the Braves over a barrel because they have absolutely no in house alternatives to replace him. The nicest condos in New York with less than half that sq. $8M (2025) ~$22M (Arb3) Injuries and regression could always push any of these extensions from bargain to burden particularly in the later stages of the deals, when the salaries are come with more heft. Google elude. Im a Braves fan who believes that there are plenty of fans of other teams who have common sense, knowledge, and good manners. Dynasty, Mets are going to spend and bankrupt Cohen while winning absolutely nothing. Mike Soroka, if he would have been extended at the same time in his career than Strider just was, would have two years of no value add to the team due to his Achilles injuries. Going to be stunned if AA downgrades at SS w/their current competitive excellence at all other positions except left field. Its all Monopoly money past a certain point and this core has dynasty potential. SALARY Bo Bichette, SS, TOR. He wouldve made around $1M per pre-arbitration year in 23 and 24, anyway. Ya this was a massive overpay for his final 2 arb years even if they get 2028 and an option for 29. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/super-two-status-set-at-2-116-years-of-service.html. $20M (2027) Since 2020 was a short season lets take the last 4 seasons. They played their home games at Truist Park (Park Factors: 114/116) where 3,129,931 fans witnessed their 2022 Braves finish the season with a .623 winning percentage. You could risk buying the ticket at the ball game, but it comes with a 10% day-of-purchase fee. While I have been a fan of the other extensions, this extension scares me a bit. Im sure Ill get roasted with comments on letting Shewmake run with SS but Im trying to be reasonable. Thats not how you run a billion dollar company, its just not and thats exactly what they did. Ugh. Most of his miscalculations are trigger happy overreactions to common slumps and overvaluing prime players, because he doesnt realize the extra value hes trying to quantify is the consistency they bring in being a star player. He is doing well in his personal life as well. ~$31M (Arb4). The only other way to get that channel is to splurge on the ridiculously overpriced cable providers with their ever-escalating fees. The Phillies are a bunch of try-hards. His salary will jump to $4 million in 2025, $20 million in 20216 and $22 million in 2027 and 2028. and injuries. Give Swanson credit for being healthy for the last couple of seasons. I see little comparison between Strider and Harvey. That means he had a good year, unlike 2022. Time on the injured list doesnt cut into a players service time, neither does short-term bereavement, COVID, or concussion protocols! As in a guy that says no to everything that people tell them. "EXTENDED @Braves have signed RHP Spencer Strider to a six year contract extension worth $75M. And And. Who caes about Story and Baez past anyway? Salary Spencer Strider's salary is $710,000 per year, which includes a $0 signing bonus. To your point, Strider hasnt come close to earning it, hes shown PROMISE, not sustained success. the only reason they have been able to sign this massive core of players is because theyre taking risks and signing them very early. He actually has only three days in 2021, so hell be close to the bottom of his class. Awkward, weak arm, slap happy hitter whose approach doesnt fit the Braves high exit velo crush the ball approach. FF fired his agent. This deal shows me the Braves have enormous confidence in Strider. To expand on your thoughts, which I agree with completely, there is a reason a hitter and a pitcher have different projected values as prospects, despite having the same ranking overall and the same overall future value. Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. Be the first one to comment on this story. That earned him a six-year extension worth $75 million. Scores from any date in Major League history, Minor, Foreign, College, & Black Baseball, Frequently Asked Questions about MLB and Baseball, Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREE. Swanson is not as good as those guys. So we are primed in the next 2 years ti go after anyone and hopefully alvarez and baty are legit to add to alonso lindor and whoever else. Bogaerts took an immensely friendly deal.. The Braves should evaluate Swanson based on his last 3 healthy seasons of play. $12.5 million a year is nothing in 2022 MLB. Spencer Strider is on Instagram at spencerstrider. 2023 Pre Arb year $1 million (yes, MLB minimum is $700k) Spencer Strider +1100 Aaron Nola +1200 Max Fried +1200 Zac Gallen +1600 Zack Wheeler +1600 Julio Urias +2000 Joe Musgrove +2000 Brandon Woodruff +2000 Yu Darvish +2200 Logan Webb +3000 Kyle Wright . He has not stated how much he was paid by the teams while getting picked by the MLB. We can stay the underdog and underrated for all I care . If not for an extension, Strider would have made the league minimum in 2023 and 2024, been Arb 1 eligible in 2025, Arb 2 eligible in 2026, Arb 3 eligible in 2027 and a free agent after 2027. The extra year of service time for Top 2 in ROY voting means that combined with his full season on the Braves roster in 2022, Strider would be entering 2024 as Super Two eligible and the Braves would have a year less control. If he has any hope of living up to this contract, Strider will have to play the whole year on the MLB roster for 2023 without injuries. Reward thing. Golden struck out 276 in his rookie campaign. His great year does not guarantee future success as he has not sustained it for nearly long enough. $2M (2024) Must be a great place to play if they can get all these young guys to sign for long term. Strider burst on the scene this year as he posted a 2.67 ERA with 202 strikeouts over 31 appearances (20 starts), becoming the first Braves rookie in the Modern Era to have a 200-strikeout season. Ok I quickly read up on the bonus pool from the new CBA. Buying out those arbitration years is key to these deals imo. The only way this deal makes sense is if Burnes and Fried get paid over $75M between their final arb year and their first two years of Free Agency. Long-term extensions do not preclude a player from getting those bonus pool dollars pre-arbitration. The Gerrit Cole contract ($36M/year) is looking to become an albatross on the backend and we have to remember the cost to live in New York is crazy high, so even a parallel deal in most cities would be 10-20% cheaper. Striders been out for close to a month recovering from a mild oblique strain. Deferred payments and incentive clauses are not included. Some thoughtful Dodgers guys on here too. Because he is a likely ROY finalist, if the Braves manipulated his service time all of that would remain exactly the same. When hes banging 25-30 HRs, hell be at best a mid-.800 OPS, nowhere near the $40M/year people believe he will get! The average Plug and Play Tech Center salary ranges from approximately $53,527 per year for an Intern to $304,574 per year for a Director. Your Shane Spencer strawman garbage makes no sense as a comp for any extension the Braves have executed. Time will tell whether Max Fried and Dansby Swanson also factor into the teams long-term plans. I know the first few years here are cheap, but still . They are very pleased to pay him. Doubt the Sox are much happier w/Story, but Red Sox fans would know much more about that than I do. Great point about Matt Harvey and didnt he have an arm injury? Hes shown his ceiling to be so high that Im sure they wanted to lock it in place before hes outpriced himself, with another solid season. The greatest lineups ever? Not to sound too negative, since there are also positives in his hitting profile, but Id have concerns going too long term with him. Ride along with Braves pitcher Spencer Strider as he talks about what it's like playing at the big-league level, his favorite music to play on days he starts. Dansby is gone. The Clemson product cracked the Braves Opening Day roster in 2022, initially working multi-inning stints out of the bullpen before ascending to the starting staff, where he not only found success but emerged as a bona fide front-of-the-rotation arm. You make deals based on current results and future expectations. One BB fewer per 9 and hes right around peak Jacob deGrom. In 2023, Strider will earn a base salary of $1,000,000, while carrying a total salary of $1,000,000. Preferably, youd also buy out another year or two of free agency at that point, as well. He easily would have been a Super 2 as well. We present them here for purely educational purposes. Also just stick to one account Pads Fans. Hell outspend the Dodgers on infrastructure and payroll on his way to becoming the 3rd superteam in the NL. A total of $78.475 mm. Vons king of the hill when it comes to Phils fans on here. Spencer Strider has played for 1 team, the Atlanta Braves. (Machado can opt out of his deal with the Friars after next year, so the Padres 2028 commitments may not end up being quite so large.) Typical cutoff is around 125-145 days into the season! My guess is he re-signs w/the Braves. The examples and numbers you give and your well edited comments make me believe you are a writer fiction, right? But all of that is irrelevant, if he starts pitching like he did in Game 3 of the NLDS!! His arb years were going to be absurdly expensive. Exceeded rookie limits during 2022 season, 2023 Contract Status: The move is retroactive to Sept. 21 and Strider has not pitched since last Sunday. In Texas, the nicest home I can find in the Dallas area is 20,000 sq ft for $14M. The Braves pay their 1.66 mil per season regardless for that. A fourth-round gem in the extremely truncated 2020 draft (five rounds), Strider skyrocketed through the Braves system despite a lack of minor league games in 2020, ultimately making his Major League debut late in the 2021 season. Doesnt take a genius to see which one is better for the team. With that being said, I agree with Atlantas approach here overall but there is still a fair amount of risk involved when extending young players so early in their careers. Per SNY's Andy Martino, the Mets are hesitant to go up to four years if another team offered four at a high salary figure for the two-time Cy Young winner, who opted out of the remaining two years of the five-year . They wont because the union wont allow it to only benefit a segment of the members. Im confident youve been subjected to it countless times. They shouldve gotten at least 3 guaranteed free agent years plus an option year for that kind of heavy payout, and even then its unnecessarily risky for the team compared to other early career extensions. Name those Braves fans who felt that way. Fried wasnt this good out of the gate. Strider agreed to a six-year, $75 million deal that includes a $22 million option with a $5 million buyout for 2029. Prior to his MLB career, he played for minor league teams such as Augusta GreenJackets, Rome Braves, Mississippi Braves, and the Gwinnett Stripers. Tyler Wells gets his first start of the spring against Spencer Strider. Every FA in Swansons class is going to be more expensive than he will. Contact doesnt increase as bat speed wains, hand eye coordination deteriorates, and eye sight worsens. These deals also help lower the luxury tax hit down the road. Strider has an 77% chance of avoiding it. I would give this contract a 5% chance of paying off for the Braves due to injury risk, statistical volatility, x-factor changes in both personal life and professional baseball. Isnt that the first requirement necessary to qualify for the extra service time youre referencing above? Walk rate down to a career low while his K rate is basically at a career high. Hard throwing pitchers get seriously injured a lot. If you swap those times it would be a 1pm local start in LA, at least this way its a 4pm local start in ATL. . Strider returned from his injury in 2020 and was later picked in the fourth round of the MLB 2020 draft by the Atlanta Braves, with whom he eventually signed a contract. ITT: People who dont know what Super Two means. So the only time he could qualify for Super 2 status is after 2023. The Braves are getting 2 years of FA for $44 million total. Shouldnt you still be ranting about how the Division race was over in May? Another pitiful troll comment from books. They couldve done that with a 6 year deal for $45M with a $25M option. Talent evaluation, competent analysis, and a decent memory arent your strong suits. If the Rangers offer $250M to live in Texas with no state income tax, that saves as much as 5-10% off the top. Wouldnt be a bad time to offer him a 5-6 year deal at 100-120 mill. "There's nobody that has higher aspirations or expectations for performance than myself. Thats only one example, but theres so much more risk on the free agent market (especially when looking for TOR arms) than locking up someone that could slot into that. As a Yankee fan, Im much more resentful of the Yankees keeping their YES Network off of all of the streaming services except Direct TV. He hasnt even extended Fried yet, and this reeks of him knee-jerking his reaction to Fried probably not wanting to talk about extensions and him wishing he wouldve done something a couple years ago. Obviously if it went that route the Braves win this by a bit, maybe $10 mil in their favor by the end of it roughly. Strider, 24 later this month, will earn $1MM both in 2023 and 2024. Not sure who he /them is/are, but I betcha Freddie wishes he wouldve had him/them last off season. Cano signed with Seattle, the Mets were just dumb enough to trade for him. If he got close to sniffing free agency, he would have demanded two or three times what we are going to be paying him. Darius Vines, RHP 5. Baez/Story trending down, Swanson up. That mark was quickly smashed by Wander Franco (11 years, $182MM) and further surpassed this summer by Julio Rodriguez (12 years, $210MM). He already missed a month due to injury. vs. NYM 1.0 IP, 2 H, 0 SO, 0 BB, 1 ER, Rookie Status: . 8. Otherwise, smart to stash the stache. Strider will make $4 million by 2025, with $1 million going to each of the next two seasons. Apple TV games are free this year. Should have let Strasburg leave. Someone mentioned Max Fried as a comparison, but Fried barely pitched his first 2 seasons in the majors, and had only a small fraction of a season in 2020, and hasnt seen his last 2 arb awards in any case. In Braves speak, that means hes hitting FA. The Braves have to account for that in their offer. What about Georgias racist voting rights? Career Earnings: View Spencer Strider 's Teammates Salaries Current Contract: Those two pitchers both took home multiple pieces of hardware. Especially not when youre right, lol. Baez and Story are declining. This might be the worst extension overpay I have ever seen. Thats great, except he still has to win a Cy Young, get multiple All-Star games, and or win Gold Gloves. Then you wont be signing him. His service time was at 2 years and 148 days when he qualified for a difference of 145 days of service when a full season is 172 days. Team Date Transaction; November 14, 2022: Atlanta Braves activated RHP Spencer Strider.