Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. 28 gauge. It is a special powder developed for Cowboy Action Shooters using lead bullets. Both sports demand power and accuracy, so a combination of a heavy lead bullet, slow powder, and a longer barrel will be a benefit. FPS) (unless at least using a Gas Check) (with pure lead wadcutters, do not 357 caliber. Georgia Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: If you are looking for a target/plinking load for your 357's I have found using 5.5 grains of Unique behind either a 158 grain LSWC or Rainier Plated bullet to be very accurate and pleasurable to shoot. Get Guns.com offers and news!! Handloading also lets you utilize a vast library of .38 Special loads, one of the .357s biggest perks. can be cranked up a bit in velocity with jacketed bullets for a flatter trajectory in longer-distance shooting and hunting small . Lead bullets are great for such high-volume shooting. Theres not a whole lot under the size of a deer that cant be taken using some .357 Magnum load. Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Feb 15, 2017. Hodgdon CFE Pistol is best suited for cartridges producing the middle range of power (non-magnum pistol loads in most calibers including 500 S&W).
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Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Posts: 3,825. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. I too have used Alliant 2400, it makes an excellent full/hunting load. The armor piercing round was Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. NEI #200.358GC. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. If the loads work in the rifle barrel its almost a sure thing they will do fine in the sixgun, however it is almost imperative one uses either jacketed or hard cast gas-checked bullets in the rifle barrel. In the 1:16 16.25 barrels, we tested loads from subsonic .38 Special to a stout .357 Maximum and everything in between. Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: A series of targets John shot with the Marlin 1894, proving the accuracy And the .45 Schofield cowboy loads recorded lower velocities than expected but delivered excellent accuracy. Unique is a wonderful choice, but as Beagle333 stated I cannot find any. 2205 isn't the best choice in handgun length barrels, where it shines is rifle length barrels.I use 2205 in 44 mag hunting load and 22 hornet, Ap70n in 32, 38, 9mm, 357 and 44 mag target loads. 125 gr. Like mentioned, use a magnum primer with magnum powders and do not reduce H1110/Win 296 below recommended start loads. will drive those bullets to a MV of 1217 fps. A comprehensive used reloading setup often comes well below the price of a new gun, and if you have one, it can make your existing Magnums so diverse in function its like owning multiple guns. West Virginia Division of Natural Resources, State Agency: The reason my loads for the .357 Magnum levergun are the same as they are for the .357 Magnum sixgun is simply because the whole point is to be able to use the same load in both. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: I have 5.5 to 5.8 grains of Titegroup always worked well for me with pretty much any jacketed or plated 158 gr. Bianchi Speed Strips are a compact loading device for revolvers . , to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. If youre looking for target loads on 38/357 than any fast burning pistol powder will work. I keep my loads to 1,100 FPS in the .357 magnum w/ cast bullets. I also wanted a better finish than the plain stained buttstock and forearm so I had Milt put a real finish on the wood. State Agency: Big enough that components can be easily handled, small enough not to need special gear, and common enough to be inexpensive. Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. . Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. These days, thats saying quite a lot! This was written nearly 40 years ago and not much has changed. Unique is a great choice. With regards, 357Mag Ive sold plenty of others, because they dont see as much use. I'm old school though , been loading since mid eighties , haven't tried the newer powders on the market. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Free shipping for many products! Minnesota Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. I don't want to blow myself up right away. Muzzle velocity from a 4-5/8 Ruger Old Model Flat-Top are 1,050 fps and 1,150 feet per second respectively. Commercial .38s make for light recoil, inexpensive .357 practice rounds. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, The Mismatched Model 27: A Curious Revolver, The Colt Mk III Lawman: A Forgotten Revolver, Retro Review: Smith & Wesson LadySmith Revolvers. ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the Like Jimbo said you'll do better with two powders than one. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. 32 H&R Magnum. The last one, a brand-new Remington/Marlin, came from my local gun shop a couple months back. To simplify for conversation's sake, I generally regard loads as low, mid or full and further specify if the context warrants, e.g. (Cowboy Action) 44 Russian (Cowboy Action) 44 S&W Special (Cowboy Action) 44-40 Win . Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. in the field and very accurate. Something that might not handle a double charge even from it. Home Of The First Capitol Of The Confederate State, REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, DISTRICT OF ROUND ROCK. (1995) Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and One of my favorite heavy bullets is the 200-gr. over 20 years it was simply known as "the Magnum," as there was no It's a super accurate load in the Model 19s and the Model 27. Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! HP 38 is forgiving and easy on the recoil. The reason I moved to Alliant Power Pro 300MP was I was impressed with what I read about it and have found it to be very clean burning, relatively low muzzle flash, accurate and can get a 150 to 250 more fps while still keeping well within the SAAMI 35,000 psi limit. Take it from a guy that chased for the holy grail of powder to do both well for over a yearjust buy two different powders. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. Since I started doing this seriously, Ive only bought one gun, a .308 bolt-action rifle.
Top 8 Best .38 Special & .357 Magnum Ammo In 2023 Reviews - TheGunZone JHP, 125 gr. This loading breaks 1,340 fps in my four-inch barrel Python. You need a faster powder for the .38 and you do for the .357. of muzzle energy. I have your 66's cousin - a 66-1 4", which is my favorite shooter! The action was not as smooth as I would like and the trigger pull was much too heavy at 8-1/2 lbs. Accuracy can be greatly refined through reloading, though I would go factory for self defense. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Although a lot of factory ammo for the .357 is loaded light in deference to all those 80 year old guns out there, a full power .357 S&W Mag with those light 125 grain bullets (remember, the cartridge was made for 158 grain bullets at a published velocity of 1500 f.p.s. It looks like anything over 950 fps is pretty much topping out the range for this revolver. For the 140 grain JHP the Reloading booklet Alliant Powder Co. Reloaders Guide (1995) Hodgdons and 8 lb. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. The bullet gets a clean kill without fragmenting. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. Is it worth my effort in developing 357mag loads using this powder..wondering if it was to fast..I am using 158gr sierra JHP bullets.
Five Favorite Handgun Powders - AmmoLand Shooting Sports News is 1235 fps and the ME is 535 ft. lbs. I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads.
5 Most Popular Pistol Reloading Powders (Plus my favorite!) - Backfire If I was going to use W231 in the .357 mag with 158gr lead bullets I'd keep the load below Speers 5.4gr max and and less than 1,000 fps with soflt swagged or cast bullets. Just remember, in .357 Magnum, some powders can be too fast. of True Blue, a WSPM and a 125 gr.
It was our first magnum revolver cartridge and offered sensational velocities for that era, as it advertised a 158-grain SWC-style bullet at 1,510 feet per second (fps) from a 834-inch barrel, but was around 1,400 to 1,450 fps in most revolvers. gunmans right on i have used the old stand by blue dot for mag loads back when i loaded a lot of 357 mag. JavaScript is disabled. While visiting a gun shop south of us a year or so ago they recommended against 2400. Imostly stay with gas check bullets in all .357 Magnum loads simply because they seem to shoot a lot more accurately. The .38 Spl. * Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. grain bullets are the top choices for personal defense against "bad I've tried Unique and Bullseye, and I've found the Red Dot burns cleaner . 12 gauge. Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. The heavy 158-180 grain bullets are the No purchase necessary. I've got a closet with at least 10 different powders. Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: I have been reloading the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. I have found Winchester W231 and Hodgdon HS-6 powders excellent for low and medium velocity loads and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for . The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. No purchase necessary. If the tolerances are close between minimum and maximum loads, imagine what the effect of different bullets might be. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. Any .357 Magnum revolver Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, State Agency: But for all that inherent diversity, Ive found theres a single cartridge that lets me cover most bases while keeping expense down and enjoyment up. 357 Magnum (Cowboy Action) 38 Special (Cowboy Action) 38-40 Win. The 1:20 tests at 100, 200 and 300 yards proved that with a rifle length barrel, any commercially available bullet will . If part of your plinking enjoyment . Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a significant increase in muzzle velocity. The Nylon 66, a relatively inexpensive rimfire with faux woodgrain, was the first successful synthetic-stock firearm. Lets just say midway tween low and high , In my opinion the K frames just aren't stout enuf for a steady diet of high pressure stuff. all purpose, and I also use them for .38 special, just less of it. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! This same load is awesome in Marlin lever guns, but you might have to modify your bullet a bit depending on what you shoot; Ive seen some Ubertis that didnt care for the rounded flatpoint bullet profile. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's 6.4 gr. Historically .357 Mag. the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: But it may depend on your definition of 'full power'. This high energy powder provides economy in loading. Aside from your .357 loads, you can fire several others in it, including the .38 Short and Long Colt and the .38 Special. All with good results. (Photo: Andy C). Result of not working out is a kaboom and potential injury. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, Massachusetts Division of Fisheries & Wildlife, Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, West Virginia Division of Natural Resources, Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, New York Department of Environmental Conservation, Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, Minnesota Deptartment of Natural Resources, Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. No purchase necessary. Wyoming Game & Fish Department, State Agency:
not in popularity or usefulness. with 125 and 158 Gr Lead or Coated Lead Bullets. The best powder I've used, and I've tried many, is . July 31, 2021. pressures may have been even higher; and if you shoot one of those . 1.590 in. In addition, WW 296 would have . The firearm hobby is a broad one, with many subdivisions of interest and activity. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. .38 Special +P loads make My second choice for light loads would be Winchester 231 or Hodgdon HP-38 which are the same powder. Deployed military should use stateside address. Buffalo Bore offers a hard-hitting, high-velocity 180-grain JHP loading well-suited to taking deer-sized game at 50 yards or so. Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a . Sounds like things are going real good with the reloading, Chance. Some of the components John uses for the .357 Magnum for leverguns. Your mileage may vary. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Epic 22 Pocket Pistol: The Beretta 71 Jaguar. of Bullseye alot as a . full loads. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: I use it in .38 Special, .357 Mag, 45 ACP and even light loads in .41 Mag. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks.
Good powder choice for full power 158 gr .357 loads? - AR15.COM Teach them the truth, and let them sort thru the cobwebs of liberalism that have infested their minds. shows that 16.5 grains of 2400 powder will drive their 125 grain Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. but only the gas check versions will normally work with the heavier loads.
I get similar results with the same bullet and 4 to 4.5 grains of W231. Titegroup, 100% burnt at 1.65 inches of barrel length. CCI primers. Follow the reloading manuals precisely. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead.
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Best Velocity for 125Gr 357? | GON Forum It has shot superbly in S & W "N"-frames of 4, 5, and 6".. and also in a Marlin M1894SC .357Mag .
Powder recommendation 38 Special/357 Magnum - Northeastshooters.com Forums Let me be the 1st to say that you can never go wrong with Unique. I don't have any Titegroup right now or I would try it. Jul 7, 2011. I purchased my first when they first came out and our family has added three more since then. All my .38/.357 guns love this load (S&W 642/Ruger Blackhawks/Ruger GP100/Marlin 1894 Cowboy). Always used 2400 for that and my .44. $36.52. They shoot very accurately out of my Model 586. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. These are good full power hunting loads. Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. Hand loading self-defense ammo isnt recommended so well table that, but you can load up practice rounds that can approximate your chosen self-defense loads. Nevada Department of Wildlife, State Agency: Switch to jacketed bullets in the .357 Magnum levergun and things get really interesting. But have used Power Pistol in .357 Sig. Even though two bullets have the same weight, they may have considerably different bearing surfaces and other characteristics that alter their performance and chamber pressure characteristics. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. This powder has a low bulk density so it fills the case well to reduce free space in the same way as Trail Boss. Reloading bench, featuring the very reloadable .357. . Contest void where prohibited by law.
Making .357 Magnum Ammo: A Powerful and Versatile Caliber Not sure of your experience level , ya need to get some manuals and study up the bullet weights your gonna shoot. Some manufacturers make the 148 grain hollow-based wadcutter, but theyre uncommon and expensiveand not tailored to your gun. I need to pick up projectiles for 38 and 357 for a 357 Ruger Revolver and a Rossi lever. My friend the late John Wootters raised this question in an article from 1983 and even before this, in November 1982, Ken Waters published Pet Loads for the .357 Magnum Carbine.. Read More Handloading Articles We dont always need full power loads and my more pleasant shooting loads are assembled with H4227. Every cowboy needs a revolver. JHP, (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose), SP=Soft Point, (JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet), (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. Because of Titegroup's density, the ONLY place I will use it is in 380 and below cartridges. MLittle. By FortuneCookie45LC. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over.
Developing load for 357 lever action rifle? - Northeastshooters.com Forums Just me, and, I have never had a bad time using Titegroup but, sticking to good reloading practices dictates that there should be enough case fill so as to avoid any possibility of a double charge. When Im researching guns and I find myself in that fevered moment where I must have a new treasure, my most common check against excess is a simple mental test: 1) Is it going to do anything my .357 Magnums wont do? Shooters have been arguing for nearly 85 years as to whether the .357 Magnum is suitable for use on deer. Alliant Powder Smokeless Powders. Copyright. These are typically sports dominated by the 45 ACP and 44 Magnum. I'd have to agree with some , 2400 and unique . Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Optimal accuracy? It is a good solid gun but I made a few personal changes. Two guns, one cartridge: The Marlin 1894 and the Ruger Old Model. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. I highly recommend using 2 different powders to achieve the best results or those 2 very different rounds. Of course, you can now get .357 Magnum power in the same package, but the recoil and muzzle blast are intimidating enough that many who own the mini magnums stoke the chambers with +P .38 loads. For pure laughs, I love a heavy charge of W231 with a 130 grain lead bullet to produce a near-dusk fireball; but more serious recipes are certainly available. Snuffy. These Speer velocities I've found it to be a good all around powder for most straight wall handgun cartridges. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. That's with magnum primers. IPSCs revolver division rules basically demand a .45 ACP moonclip gun, but in IDPA the speedloader-fed .357 magnums are alive and well.